what was the name of that day care?????? I think I know her.....:laugh:
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what was the name of that day care?????? I think I know her.....:laugh:
Babysitter do...they come into your home whenever you need them and are usually between the ages of 12 - 17ish. Nannies also have flexibility...they work when you need them. Daycare providers are running a business just like anyone else and they set their hours based on what works for their business and their own families.Quote:
Originally Posted by rashmi
I do not know why you are laughing? It is very rude!Quote:
Originally Posted by mom
I was a nanny for 3 years (different families). I never gave any flexibility. We signed a contract that I worked between the hours of 8-4 or 9-5. Never did after care. But I wasn't a live-in!Quote:
Originally Posted by fruitloop
Ladies- please lets be kind and respectful
I'm laughing because 'm not the only one......and I'm also suffering like you.....I didnt mean to hurt anybody's feelings.....believe me :no:Quote:
Originally Posted by Myrtah
Ok no worriesQuote:
Originally Posted by mom
You took the words right out of my mouth. I love children and love being able to raise my son at home, but to be honest with you, I am running this daycare for the income. And when someone takes their child out of care for a few days, it really hurts my budget. I allow 5 sick days per child per year and after that the parents must pay to keep their spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steph
I too left my high paying job to operate my daycare so this low income has hurt our finances but it's worth it in the end to see the smiles on the kids faces everyday.
Sometimes parents take it too personally and don't realize that we are running a business from home and need the income. I don't like chasing people or money, parents should read and abide by the rules when they decide to start with a daycare. Just like we have to return the favour by doing all the things we promised with thier children when they are in our care.
Babysitters??? Then I guess we should put your child in front of the tv all day and have our friends come over to party, because that's what 12 year old babysitters do. They are not there to teach your children manners, to be social, and to educate them to get them ready to start school on the right foot. We are DAYCARE PROVIDERS and should be respected for the job we do everyday in providing children with a safe, fun and educational environment.Quote:
Originally Posted by rashmi
I too am a parent and would want the BEST care or my child if I decided to have them in a home daycare. And I would pay good money and abide by the rules because this provider would be basically raising my child and deserve to be well paid for wiping their boogies, cleaning their dirty diapers, patiently waiting while they do things by themselves and providing a perfect home away from home since I would be working.
As a provider I can honestly say that I try my very best to make things work. However, there have been times when I have, unfortunately, had to let a family go. Please do not view this as a lack of interest. There are other children to consider in this scenario and their well-being is equally important. :)
Thank you
Good post
I am a mother and had a BAD experience with a daycare provider which is why i quit my job and started doing daycare myself. It has been a LONG time since that incident passed but i will never forget it, and it will never cease to cross my mind at least twice a week while I am looking at these precious children I help to raise, and I will never stop asking myself wtf this stupid lady's problem was. And she is on these forums as well. And whenever I see her to this day with her other dck's (cause she is in my area) it takes all I have not to walk up to her and punch her in the face.
WOW What happened? Very curious?Quote:
Originally Posted by greenborodaycare
I don't agree. Bad stuff happens in ALL daycare settings - both centre-based and home-based. Have you ever been to www.daycaresdontcare.org? Go there. Read the comments from workers in CENTRE based daycare. You would be surprised by the stuff that goes down there. One of my best friends is an ECE and worked in "quality" daycare centres and once she had kids she stayed home with them because she said she would NEVER put her kids in a daycare centre.Quote:
Originally Posted by emmabail
I have had the opportunity to have live video feeds of a few daycare centres and let me tell you, they are NOT all they are cracked up to be.
That website is horrible. As far as I can tell most are from the states. When I started in daycare and something was not right I stood up to the director about it. I also phoned licensing and reported it. My friend had her child in a licensed dayhome and the provider left all the kids at home by themselves when she went to the bank. Should I assume all dayhomes do
That. ABSURD. I am a director and my staff are always in ratio even if that means I am in ratio. There are good and bad daycares. We have an open door policy and my families are more then welcome to come anytime of the day. We do not watch tv all day nor are my staff allowed to use there phones during the day. My staff work only 8 hour days and make more then minimum wage by alot. Ok now that I have ranted on enough I need to go to bed so I can sit in front of a tv all day and play on my phone (not)
Carla, where r you located? Please say you are in Calgary and you are looking for stuff :)
*staff* :o
Nope, Carla is in Edmonton.
As in life, none of us should be painting ALL types of care with the same brush. There are both pros and cons to centre based care, as there are with home based. Each family has to make that decision based on what they feel is important.
And that is all I have to say about that. LoL :)
I think you were disagreeing with me. ;) But what you said was exactly my point - neither is horrible or terrific or the other. Each care situation is unique and all have pros and cons. It really bothers me when people really preach against home daycare (or centre daycare, for that matter).Quote:
Originally Posted by carla
There are good AND bad home daycare AND centre daycare.
I am not sure how to feel about that website (daycaresdontcare.or g) wether it is a scare tactic or not...I truly believe as a parent of a 3 y/o that I MUST DO the "leg work" in order to see wether a daycare/home is good for my child...Though I consider what reviews have to say --I do not base my opinion solely on them...
If a director/owner takes his/her job seriously, the children will be happy, safe and well adjusted...If not...well...we all know what has the potential to happen. I ALWAYS MADE surprise visits to my daycares, sometimes to the staff's shagrin (sp) because they thought I was a hovering parent....but so what?? (I am an ECE as well)
I wanted to make sure that they were doing the job they needed to do, and I did pull my son out of one dayhome because of what I saw, I also reported to early learning....
I guess what I am trying to say is we can't let websites do our work for us.
In my 11 years as a home daycare provider I always tell the parents at the interview to drop by 'sometime next week' and hang out with us for a bit. In all of those years only 1 parent has taken me up on it. She signed the contract that day. Come and see what we do, then decide and always follow your gut.
My 4 children attended daycare centres and in the 80' & 90's the home daycare profession was still 'babystters' and we had good and bad experiences with them. So now, I get mad when anybody calls me a 'babysitter' because my daycare is nothing like the situations my children had to endure. I run a program with healthy, safe routines, nutritious food and lots of learning activities and active play. I have heard horror stories about daycare centres too, but thankfully my experiences were great.
Dear all,
Would like to post my experience with my day care provider, small world early learning centre in oak ridges, richmond hill.
The place was pretty unhygienic with my daughter constantly sick right from the first day. We also found the caretakers badly trained and not really responsive to my childs needs. The children were not taught anything in the day care and I could see the children rolling on the carpet, whiling away their time getting bored since they were not actively engaged in any activities. Very disappointed with their services. I have also come across others who had similar experiences with this day care and who got their children out of this day care.
I have not had time to read this thread in its entirety as it is an older thread and well rather long so I just skimmed it ;)
While venting is important for sure cause without it we might explode ~ IMO there is constructive venting where the intent is to share common problems and to find positive solutions to a problem moving forward growing with stronger knowledge and deconstructive venting where the intent is to spread gossip about others, promote bad feelings about others without any intent to 'seek resolution' and well THAT is not healthy for anyone and creates a negative atmosphere :(
There are definitely awesome and horrible experiences in ALL business settings ... as well as the 'perceptions' of those using the service based on expectations and bias and so forth can create a negative experience where no others have seen or experienced it ~ I have restaurants I LOVE that my peers HATE because we share different expectations and values around dining and well the same goes for childcare as well ~ just because someone was not happy with a providers service does not mean they are a BAD provider it just means that they were not a match for service!
IMO regardless of the 'setting' the best REGULATORS of childcare industry are CLIENTS who are in those programs day in and day and can LIVE the quality of care being provided or not .... when choosing a childcare centre or provider IMO the BEST place to start is ensure you put MORE research into it than you do your new car purchase cause IME 95% of clients seeking childcare do NOT do their due diligence in choosing care ... they do not make that 'informed' decision that could avoid conflict and a poor experience in the first place and in hindsight if they HAD they would not have chosen as they did!
Plus if you have had a REALLY bad experience with a daycare provider or daycare centre where you felt there was risk to your child and you had to pull as a result ... so something BEYOND just not being a match for childbearing philosophies or not being happy with the contract you agreed to and signed.... there are CONSTRUCTIVE recourse's for clients to resolve these issues and hopefully help prevent issues in the future for others ~ if you feel strongly enough about the care provided or not provided having put your child at risk of harm than USE them ;)
For those in Ontario you can start here ~
Bottom line is that WE are the only advocates children have ~ we need to do our due diligence to protect them and not expect the 'government' to always be doing it through regulations we 'assume' people are following!Quote:
http://www.edu.gov.on.ca/childcare/concerns.html
What to do if you have concerns about your child's care
Child care should be an enriching and satisfying experience for your child. You should always feel confident that your child is in a healthy, safe and happy environment.
Talk to the staff or your caregiver
If you have concerns about your child's care your first step should always be able to talk to the staff or your caregiver. Here are some tips:
Schedule a time with your caregiver to talk about your concerns. That way, both you and the staff or caregiver will be ready to talk.
Be prepared. Make notes ahead of time about your concerns.
Be clear about what's being said. If you need clarification or have concerns about your caregiver's response, ask him or her to explain it further.
If necessary, arrange a follow-up meeting.
Talk to the Ministry of Education
If you continue to have concerns, contact your local regional office of the Ministry of Education.
Informal caregivers are not monitored by the Ministry of Education. However, regional staff will investigate complaints from the public about a person who may be providing care to more than five unrelated children without a licence.
Children in Need of Protection
If you have a reasonable suspicion that a child is or may be in need of protection, you must report it to a Children's Aid Society in your area. A child in need of protection is a child who is or appears to be suffering from abuse or neglect.
[QUOTE=Inspired by Reggio;19137]I have not had time to read this thread in its entirety as it is an older thread and well rather long so I just skimmed it ;)
While venting is important for sure cause without it we might explode ~ IMO there is constructive venting where the intent is to share common problems and to find positive solutions to a problem moving forward growing with stronger knowledge and deconstructive venting where the intent is to spread gossip about others, promote bad feelings about others without any intent to 'seek resolution' and well THAT is not healthy for anyone and creates a negative atmosphere :(
There are definitely awesome and horrible experiences in ALL business settings ... as well as the 'perceptions' of those using the service based on expectations and bias and so forth can create a negative experience where no others have seen or experienced it ~ I have restaurants I LOVE that my peers HATE because we share different expectations and values around dining and well the same goes for childcare as well ~ just because someone was not happy with a providers service does not mean they are a BAD provider it just means that they were not a match for service!
IMO regardless of the 'setting' the best REGULATORS of childcare industry are CLIENTS who are in those programs day in and day and can LIVE the quality of care being provided or not .... when choosing a childcare centre or provider IMO the BEST place to start is ensure you put MORE research into it than you do your new car purchase cause IME 95% of clients seeking childcare do NOT do their due diligence in choosing care ... they do not make that 'informed' decision that could avoid conflict and a poor experience in the first place and in hindsight if they HAD they would not have chosen as they did!
Reggio nailed it here. There are some parents in my area that hate my dayhome because they feel it is to structured, and that I am too rule driven..... and then others that love it because they know what to expect from me.
You MUST DO YOU RESEARCH AS A PARENT. That's it that's all.
Hi, I am a journalist at CBC. Looking to learn more about peoples experiences with home daycares. If you are interested in sharing your story please get in touch with me annie.burns-pieper@cbc.ca.
Thanks,
Annie Burns-Pieper
Yes I agree with Niveah to mention the names of terrible babysitters and daycares so that no one else go through same bad experience.
This is what the purpose of organizations like Better Business beaureu are for so that complaints can be mediated and resolved and if not resolved than a rating posted for it - there are two sides to every story and if clients want to start publicly blackballing businesses with their one side than be prepared for businesses to start to do more "do not provide service to xyz client" based on their experience with the client ... the world would be such a better place if people would just COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER!Quote:
Originally Posted by saqi
ETA had this poster mixed up with another
Sorry had the recent poster mixed up with someone else ~ but stand by my opinion to use the BBB verses bashing online
I just wanted to add that in training they tell you a lot of kids will cry when being dropped off. It is normal and looking at it from the kids side they want to spend more time with mom and dad then us. Kids now a day get so little time with parents. I have kids some times 10 -12 hrs a day and mom or dad come to get them, spend and hour or so and it is off to bed. I am a mom of two and they know me, but when dad heads off to work crying is had by both. I know it isn’t because they don't like me but they see dad only a few hrs a day and weekends. The best thing is mom and dad but don’t give up on finding someone great for your babies.
To all of the other caregivers on this site, I just sent a report to admin regarding this ridiculous post and the behaviour of this poster. Hopefully something can be done to rectify the pathetic situation.
Oh darasmommy you are like a car wreck, you tell yourself not to look but then you do. Sigh, my bad.
I think your problem is you would love to stay home with your little one however due to circumstances you can't which is the norm now a days. You come across as jealous of the providers as you know this is a job you could never do (as we are often told by the parents we provide care for) so you have to leave your little one and work outside the home. I hope you find quality daycare for your child and a counsellor for yourself. Go ahead with your threat of "telling everyone you know" about daycare providers. We can with stand the scrutiny. If they know you like we are starting to, they will take what you say as coming from a mean spirited, jealous and unhappy woman and that's what bullies are made of.
I just did as well - I'm all for people expressing their opinion but not in a rude & ignorant way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Momof4
Hi ladies I am watching this thread. Sure there are bad providers- we have all seen them, but please try and be constructive.
All Darasmommy has done is be all around rude, why is she still here? It is obvious she is here to perpetuate (sp) streotypes, and make all the hard workers here feel bad
Thank you mamaof4 but have you read all 13 of the posts by darasmommy? They are all very rude. Yes, this is a public forum and parents are more than welcome to ask us questions and learn how we operate our daycares. We welcome that and are happy to help and listen and learn from each other, but we all do want the posts to be constructive.Quote:
Originally Posted by mamaof4
If members do not want to be exposed to Darasmommy's posts just reminder that the forum offers an 'ignore' option ... just go to your control panels and enter her user name under the ignore feature and her posts will no longer show up in threads just a little memo that says 'this users post has been blocked as per your request' ... than you do not need to worry about being offended by anything she says just ignore her and go on about your days ;)
Well, I for one, do not feel bad because of darasmommy's ignorant and ill-informed comments. While she is not being constructive in her criticism and she obviously holds some kind of grudge against home daycare providers for reasons of her own, I welcome it as an opportunity to set the record straight. The reason her comments cannot make me feel bad is that I am extremely PROUD of the work that I do. I have a university degree and had a good-paying government job which I left in order to open my own daycare because this is what I WANT to do and I am good at it. I am not doing daycare because I have no other options or I wanted an easy way to make money while sitting on my behind. If I had wanted to find an easy job where i had lots of down time while making good money, I would have stayed with government...now that was the easiest job I ever had with the best pay and benefits. Providing childcare is the most challenging job I have ever done and I know most people can't even begin to imagine how we do it...plus this is not a "get rich" job as most of us just barely make ends meet after we pay for expenses such as quality food, educational materials, toys, outings, etc. But we do it because we love doing it and we know we are making a difference in these little people's lives and the lives of their parents...a positive difference! I don't know where you live Darasmommy, but in the two neighbourhoods I have lived in while running my daycare, I have never seen ANY daycare providers painting their nails or neglecting the children in their care in any way. Yes, we may takl to each other and offer much needed support, advice, encrouragement, etc and we may sit down as it is one of the few points in the day when we can actually sit for a moment depending on the ages of the kids we have and the business of the park etc. But this does not mean we are not watching or providing quality care. It means we are giving the children a chance to explore and burn their energy while we supervise their play. And as for this forum, well let me just ask you this, have you never complained or vented about something at your workplace? If you answer no, I would guess that you are either lying or extremely unusual, because most people need to vent every now and then and most people need support from colleagues and advice on tricky situations. This forum is the only chance for that kind of support and peer mentoring that most of us have and it is invaluable to us. It does not mean we don't like what we do or that we are not good daycare providers...it means we are human and to spend 9-10 hours with 5 small children and no other adults, we need a little peer support at naptime to help us with issues that affect our day. Perhaps you should keep your eye out for some good home daycare providers and see some of the wonderful care that they provide instead of honing in on what you consider to be poor caregiving skills. I would love for you to talk to the parents of the kids in my care as each and every one would tell you how happy their kids are to come to my house every day and how happy they are as parents to have somewhere safe, happy, friendly, encouraging, stimulating, clean, organized and educational for their little ones every day. And I am willing to bet that most of us on here could say the same thing.
wow she truly is nuts
Here here Sunnydays I too could be working in a very "low maintanance" job...but I wanted to be there for my boy.
I am all for debate and constructive critisism, but Darasmommy, can you please tell me what is constructive in saying that we are all a bunch of lazy clods and nobody should send their kids to home daycares?