Psycho mom...just when I thought it was over....

Well!! Thanks to a lovely person on this forum, I was informed this morning that PSYCHO mom posted a slanderous ad on kijiji. Didn't I say she was going to do that?! Funny thing is, it's been two weeks since it happened. I think she's just mad because she can't find child care.

This was her ad:
"There is one particular daycare on Craig Henry called "Little Dreamers" that will claim sick days and holidays the minute you pay her. And when she did claim paid sick days, she will not call you, she will text you in the middle of the night. We have few nannies lined up already so it didn't really affect us, but texting about such matters in the middle of the night is very disrespectful. We decided to overlook that until she decided to give my son a SOUR milk on the pick up. I confronted her about it and she terminated our agreement using "hostile behavior" as a reason to deflect from the main issue.
On top of that, she refused to refund the deposit and the rest of the money we paid her already saying that she is "allowed" to do so. A lawyer threat had to be made to get our deposit back.

Please please be careful, moms."


The funny thing is, she forgot to ad the part about the fact that my son had a fever of 104, and that I texted her in the middle of the night so she would have as much notice as possible. And the fact that the F***ING milk was in a dang cup in the bottom of his bag!! She made it sound like I force fed him sour milk!!!

My husband is LIVID! My first instinct was to respond to the ad informing her that what she was doing was illegal. Then my second instinct was to call her husband. But since we agreed upon termination of the contract that there would be NO further contact and the matter was finished, I didn't want to stir the pot. So I waited for my husband. He read the ad and then called the husband. He said "Just so you're aware, your wife posted a slanderous ad on kijiji about my wife and her business. I woud like you to take it down immediately. I have a lawyer on retainer and I am sure he would be glad to take you guys to court."
Apparently, the husband sighed and said, "Jesues Christ. I'll talk to her."
My husband said "That's great if you want to talk to her, but the ad comes down now."
So my husband called me and told me and then said he was going to sue them anyways lol He's a bit vindictive and when you mess with his family, he goes a little crazy. But I told him to go for it. This woman has gotten away with too much. I'm sure I'm not the only person she's done this to, but no one's ever taught her a lesson. This'll teach her for being so immature!!

Ugh. Way to ruin my week!! This week was going great and today is my Friday. I was shaking when I read the ad. I'm still mad but it helps knowing I will get revenge lmao

Anyways, just needed to vent. And if anyone knows ANYONE who may be dealing with a woman like this, tell them to BACK OUT NOW! She seemed so nice in the beginning. And then she...well, she wasn't.

Thanks ladies!:no:

So sorry you are going through this! I hope everything gets resolved quickly so you can put it behind you!

I'm so sorry for your situation. She sounds like a pretty nasty piece of work! Good on your husband for dealing with it as he did. I'm sure there were some full pants when he mentioned lawsuit :) It also sounds like, from her husband's reaction, that she's known for this kind of crap.

Good luck with your next clients.

The IDIOTS never go peacefully! It takes a fool to argue with a fool. :) Just go about your merry way and continue with your blessed life. Don't let the "fools" of the world take any more of your time!!!! Kinda makes you want to respond to : ALL NANNIES and providers, there is a mother out there named __________. She will come off as a sweet and caring person until she gets her nasty claws into you and if you do anything to displease her, she will rip you to shreads. Stear clear nannies and potential Day Care Providers, this one is a loose cannon. sincerely, LittleDreamers :)

Wow. Is the ad down? How unfortunate that it's come to this. It's also unfortunate that you're unable to publicly rebut. I guess you could post a contrary ad too, but that'd just seem childish to prospective clients, I think.

I hope you do go through with a lawsuit. She is completely in the wrong, and the thought of this woman getting the last word is bothering me IMMENSELY. People like this need to be told that they just can't do these things.

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The IDIOTS never go peacefully! It takes a fool to argue with a fool. :) Just go about your merry way and continue with your blessed life. Don't let the "fools" of the world take any more of your time!!!! Kinda makes you want to respond to : ALL NANNIES and providers, there is a mother out there named __________. She will come off as a sweet and caring person until she gets her nasty claws into you and if you do anything to displease her, she will rip you to shreads. Stear clear nannies and potential Day Care Providers, this one is a loose cannon. sincerely, LittleDreamers :)

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It really does. And honestly, I had really thought about it. But I am a bigger person than that and she'd just one person. I'm not going to give her all that power. She doesn't deserve it. I'm going to just get on with my life and let my husband do what he wants. But I'm out of it from here on out.

Good for you!!!! Thats how you "shut up" the foolish...deny them any attention!!! Just like a child. :)

What a vindictive psycho!!!! Keep us posted ho everything turns out. And good for you for being the bigger person!!!

Her husband took down the ad. My husband just called me and asked what his number was bc she put up another ad saying I feed them kraft dinner every day and fed one of the kids sour milk. She was acting like she was a different person. saying "I knoew of someone else that she gave sour milk to" and then she said child services was involved. NEVER! Now I'm afraid she's going to call child services!!!

This is a complete nightmare!

She's not going to. She's just an immature brat. I hope you do screen shots AND copy and paste both ads to use as evidence and I truly do hope you and your husband pursues this legally.

We are. We were on the fence before, but now that she's actually LYING about things, we're going to. He's calling his lawyer now. We've taken every screen shots of everything, and I've gone through all my texts and emails. Luckily, she was dumb enough to say everything over text.

I'm totally freaking out right now!!! And the worst part (or best part) is that my husband won't let me do anything about it.

Sorry to hear you are going thru this BS. I actually went on kijiji and found another ad. preety much writing in same language.

Hahaha she removed her ad :) I still can see the ad but when I click on it it says " the ad yu looking for is no longer Available ...."

Sue her I say. She deserved it.

That absolutely sucks! I don't think anyone really takes those type of ads into consideration, but it's still stressful to deal with.

I had a client once that I could totally see going in this direction. She always questioned me, always talked about her "social worker friend" LOL I ended up terminating over lates, It was quick and simple and although she was upset there really wasn't anything wrong with what I did. I kept it as low conflict as I could.

This is why we, as providers, have to be dilligent at screening perspective clients.

I hope this is the end of issues from this one for you.

Sorry you have to deal with this awful woman Littledragon. Seriously, what a vindictive bitch!

I'm glad the ad is gone and I'm really glad you have a supportive spouse who is ready to help you deal with this. Maybe a letter from a lawyer threatening a lawsuit if she doesn't cease and desist would do the trick.

Thanks Ladies. My husband ended up calling HER because when he tried to call her husband he didn't answer and then he texted my husband and said, stop calling me, your issue is with kim. That made my husband rather angry. I think her husband has a difficult time "taming" her. She's a wild one and doesn't know when to stop. So, my husband called her. I reported the ad and spoke to somoene at kijiji and she's been banned. My husband told her that she needed to stop acting like a child and that she needed to take the ad down. He told her that he was currently in contact with his lawyer and she would be hearing from him soon. So then she started running her mouth and all he said was good day and hung up lol so THEN she calls my husband back at his WORK and tells him that the next time he tries to talk to her it better be through his lawyer because she will take it as harrassment and laughed and said ok. So then she sent me an email saying the same thing. She always twists it around to make the other person look bad. It's really quite ingenius if you ask me. If she wasn't such a bad communicator, she could be an evil genius. But, unfortunately, she's dumb.

My husband's lawyer said we didn't have a lot to go on, the only thing he could use for defamating would be the social sevices thing, because everything else would be pretty hard to prove - for both sides. So we're just sending her a cease and desist letter. My husband doesn' think it's over, but I am hoping to God it is. I've decided to change the name of my daycare just in case. I know people don't take it seriously, but it really makes me nervous. So, if she posts more ads, it'll be of a daycare that doesn't exist.

Oh, I'm having a problem with somebody like that lately. Not a client, another provider! But it's infuriating when you run across a person who can twist all the words and events so that they are ALWAYS right and everybody else is ALWAYS wrong. It's really pathetic and I feel your pain. Good luck! Be proud of yourself for standing up for yourself then move on and be the bigger person.

woops!!! i just realized i said her name...didn't mean to!! sorry!!

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Oh, I'm having a problem with somebody like that lately. Not a client, another provider! But it's infuriating when you run across a person who can twist all the words and events so that they are ALWAYS right and everybody else is ALWAYS wrong. It's really pathetic and I feel your pain. Good luck! Be proud of yourself for standing up for yourself then move on and be the bigger person.

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thank you!! and good luck to you too!! A daycare provider should know better. it's hard enough as it is out there and then when you add petty providers into the mix...at least my client is fuelled by anger...the provider is just jealous :) Good luck to you I hope it gets figured out soon

Well this reminds me an old saying "barking dogs don't bite " :) I think her husband is a passive man and she controls him so she must be thinking that she can control everybody around her. Well I guess it's about time she learn her lesson. Good on your husband for not letting this go. She crossed the line in my opinion.
By the way, your lawyer should know this, you can take her to court for harassment. And as a proof you could show the court all your emails and text messages. Even the received calls from her when she called you in the middle of the night. You can also show them the term letter as a proof as well.

She never got a term letter and we can't do harrassment because the ads were not directed at me. He said he's going to see what we can do for the defamation of character, but for now we're going to send the seise (sp) and desist. So far, since my husband spoke to her, we've heard nothing. I am praying to GOD that it's over. My husband is going for surgery tomorrow and he's been nervous about it for WEEKS. So now, he's pretty much bedridden with anxiety. Poor guy. He really took one for the team today.

Oh wow Littledragon you are going through too much! Good luck with your hubby's surgery, hope it's minor and he is home and recovering nicely by tomorrow night.

And thank you so much for posting your support with my other little problem when you are the one with the big problem!

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Oh wow Littledragon you are going through too much! Good luck with your hubby's surgery, hope it's minor and he is home and recovering nicely by tomorrow night.

And thank you so much for posting your support with my other little problem when you are the one with the big problem!

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No problem!! I do have quite a problem on my hands, but honestly, I have SUCH a support system - my husband and this forum has been AMAZING. I say it over and over again, I don't know what I would do without you guys. i would probably be curled up in a ditch somewhere in the fetal position rocking back and forth. lol

Little Dragon, best wishs for your hubbys surgery, he sounds like a keeper! :)

I am so sorry to hear what you have been going through! It is unbelievable, but I've run into a few crazies in my career (not yet in my daycare, but this is only my second week LOL). I once had to file a grievance against a colleague who threatened my physically!!! And she was a clinical psychologist with two PhDs. Fortunately, she was aggressive towards many others, so they did believe me, even though it was a horrible time of investigation, her denials, no witnesses etc. Cost me $1,000 in legal bills and in the end, all that happened was she had to get mandatory counselling. I, on the other hand, was shaken to the core and got no help at all, sigh... Anyway, not to whine, just to let you know there are indeed crazies out there, and I'm glad you can be done with your psychoMom. I still had to work with my psycho...

Treeholm, you endured a horrible experience but thanks for sharing. I think the beauty of being self-employed is that we get to choose the nice families but sometimes they slip under our radar. It scares the bejeebus out of me when I hear a story about a family who will be nice for years then turn bad. How can we ever know? People scare me more than anything else in the world!

I know "vengeance" sounds great. but think long and hard before you really pursue any type of legal battle, it could bring more stress than needed. Sounds like you don't "need" any right now. We do live in a "eye-for-an-eye" world......but thats not always the answer. Perhaps just a "threat" toward this woman will suffice and you and your GREAT husband can go on with your lives. Put the past behind you and move forward, dwelling on the trouble, just keeps the trouble around! :)

Prayers for your Husbands surgery! Nothing to evasive I hope. Prayers none the less! :)

I can not agreed more with momof4, it's getting harder and harder on us the providers to trust people..:unsure:

Littledragon..it awful what you are going through, hope you can recover soon from this sour moment. I am waiting myself from another Psycho to play something similar on me and let me tell you this is not the way we deserve to be treated after all the hard work we all put into this bussiness.

First of all, huge hugs to you - what an awful woman to have to deal with. Mean people s**k ! I would keep copies of all of the e-mails/ads/etc. - any correspondance that you had with this woman. Hopefully, this will all blow over and you won't have to waste any more energy on this drama, but it's always better to prepare for the worst. I checked Kijiji this A.M. (Fri. Sept. 14 - 11:15 A.M.) and it appears that the ad has been removed - so that's good. I would still report the incident to Kijiji support staff. Take a few minutes and compose a calm, cool and professional e-mail explaining what this woman posted about you, how it was completely false, and that you are concerned about the impact that this kind of slander could have on your business. The support staff have a number of options open to them ranging from sending her a written warning about posting antagonistic "hate ads" on Kijiji, to preventing her from posting any other ads. Lastly, if you notice that you're not getting the usual amount of response from your ads, try omitting your identifying information from them - just for a short time. When you're meeting with parents, or filling out paperwork - then you can use your Little Dreamers logo. On-line it may be better to go incognitio. Hope this blows over soon, and that karma bites her on the arse !

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Wow ~ I can't believe that this lady is doing this?! You so don't deserve this and I think Alpha has the right idea!! Wow- some people have nothing better to do than to cause drama and crap.
I hope this clears up quickly :-(

Eeek Alpha! Don't cook the bunny, please don't cook the bunny! :laugh: Remind me never to tick you off!

Oh no no!! I wouldn't cook the bunny, not ever ever ever! :wub:

I was directing that at the crazy mom. She is the bunny boiler in this scenario! lol