Losing kids to pre-school ugh !! JUst venting :)
So now that full day kindergarten has rolled in to quite a few schools in our area , the daycare centers that used to offer 1/2 days to those students are now opening their program to 18mths+ so since October I have lost 2 of my kidlets :(
One of those parents have referred a client to me (yay) .... The potential client had asked on the phone if I had post secondary education ????? and it kind of through me for a loop lol I didn't think that was any of her business but it just didn't sit well with me ....
How many kids can take in our daycare? Does anyone know what are the recommended no?
so, we are allowed 5 now, right? is there a breakdown how many part time (define how many hours a day, or how many days per week), and how many full time?
i have 3 toddlers and 1 after school. 4 in total. these 2 toddlers in my care will attend full day kindergarten in sept 2013.
Granting they will come before and after school to me, I will still have 4 in total - 3 will then be before and after school, and one fulltime. With that 3 B/A, and one full time, it will be really tight financially.
So with that 4 kids in my care, would I be able to pay rent/mortgage on that income? Any thoughts on this?
Anyone have any idea what are the 16 recommendations of the jury on the inquest? I was looking where it is, but none I can find.
no 3 under 3 - so yes, loss of income, since the 4 years old are gone full day
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Inspired by Reggio
They are basically talking about requiring the rules to be the SAME regardless if you are with an agency or a private providers .... so basically your OWN to be counted in your five and that even private would have to follow the rules about the age mix allowed ... the reality is this has been being discussed since back in 2008 when I was still with my agency so well before this poor boy drowned .... the 'inequity' between private and regulated care has been part of the round table discussions on how to promote more providers to choose to be with a licensed agency and the barriers that are seen ... as the rules currently in place actually promote 'unregulated' as a more financially appealing option because you do not have to count your own children and can choose whatever age groups you feel able to serve .... which is why there are more unregulated providers and with the introduction of 'full day early learning' here in Ontario even more regulated providers have had to jump ship to 'private' in order to make a viable income because the pool of children over the age of 3 to fill the remaining spaces has shrunk considerably!
I agree, we are losing the 4 year old in the area due to full day kindergarten, so its a tough call between staying in business or find livelihood somewhere else.
Even my own toddlers do no count, (private daycares), I still count them on the 5, because the liability insurance only covers 5 children in my house under the age of 10. For insurance purposes, your own child count.
That is why i see many daycare with agency in my area switch to private - to allow more mix to the group - as our 4 year old are gone. (most catholic and public have full day for our 4 year old)
How is it in your area Reggio? Are all schools at full day for year old or it is still half day?
angie
thank you for pointing it out!
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playfelt
The biggest excuse I have heard for pulling a child from home care to a centre is to give them the chance to get used to being part of a larger group which is what they will face in school. So it is a year of transition for them too and allows them to do it while the actual academic learning is not a requirement in the sense that JK/SK build on and will teach if necessary ready for reading and grade 1.
As for requiring a degree to teach the alphabet and shapes - there are many homeschooling parents with only basic schooling themselves that do an awesome job so no a degree is not required. It is a perk that parents think is great but in reality in a home enviroment means very little. Especially when in the degree itself it barely touches on what to do when best practices have to be sacrificed due to multiage programming ie no scissors in open art centre with babies in care unless you put them in separate areas which defeats the point of family care.
I have an elementary teaching certificate as well as ECE courses and non of that prepared me for diaper changing, cooking with kids underfoot and dressing everyone for outside - being a parent did.
Reminds me of what Monique said on our CCPRN workshop about ELECT: " we in the business of home daycare are called Earliest Childhood Educator, with diploma or not".
That said, it is still the parents who have the final decision where to put their children.
The language maybe different, but it all means the same. The theory trained caregiver might put in lesson plan -5. Physical Development - Fine Motor Skills Activity for Pre-school ( cutting with scissors, drawing shapes with markers, using pinchers to pick up objects, using pretend kitchen play for tools ) while self taught mama would say - Lesson plan - using scissors, lets have fun in the kitchen. Both offer Play base Learning - which is capitalizing on your child's desire to explore and learn. To me, how the lesson is presented does not matter. As long as, this busy buddy is having fun and learning at the same time.
ah the big groups to get ready with the big crowd of 30 kids...i hear that before.
thanks playfelt.
Early Learning for Every Child Today
Reggio, I just finished my ELECT training by CCPRN. I think it was a long dry document to read, but here is the excerpt. None of these really need ECE degree unless unless #4 and #6 requires a certain format available only to ECE's ONLY as OEYC and PARENT Resource Centers offers trainings for ALL daycare providers.
The 6 Principles of ELECT
1. Early child development sets the foundation for lifelong learning, behaviour and health.
2. Partnerships with families and communities strengthen the ability of early childhood settings to meet the needs of young children.
3. Demonstration of respect for diversity, equity and inclusion are prerequisites for optimal development and learning.
4. A planned curriculum supports early learning.
5. Play is a means to early learning that capitalizes on children’s natural curiosity and exuberance.
6. Knowledge and responsive early childhood practitioners are essential to early childhood settings
What i get from the series that resonates to me was:
1. adult work = child's play
2. you learn most when you have fun - learning through play, even adults retain more of the lectures when it was fun (Psychology 101)
3. Plan your activities base on #5 and you will meet all developmental domains for child development.
I personally think that the ELECT document want us to go back to the roots, let children be children, and develop our daycare plans around them. And use more community resources, OEYC, Parent Resource, libraries - for social development of these children.
What's your take on this?
Role of the professional (Daycare Provider - anyone can do this, especially moms!)
From the book: The Plays the thing, Director , Mediator , Player , Observer,
Interrupter, Writer , Evaluator and communicator, Planner
and oh sunnydays! i hear you. I got one 5 year old in my afterschool saying she was stress out. And i wonder...she goes on saying: there is piano on mondays, swimming on tuesdays, and dance on wednesdays. And she just really want to play dolls for now....Guess what? I give her all the free play she want that afternoon..I observed that: She sings ABC to dolls, she count with them, and read with them (communication, language, numeracy, literacy). She cooks in the kitchen, arrange the utensils, measure servings, served her dolls. (cognition, fine motor skills). She is learning in her own pace and having fun...not stress out!
