I know for a fact that they were over their legal limit, I saw them with my own eyes (other than the one with 13 kids) and I know what the laws are here in Manitoba. It isn't necessarily the number of kids they have, it is that they are purposefully thumbing their nose at the law and it makes me worry about the welfare of the children. I myself am allowed to have 8 kids, but only because I am licensed. My home has been inspected, my references and background checked and I have a coordinator that can stop by at any moment unannounced to make sure that I am doing what I am supposed to. My home has been found acceptable and I have enough safe space for a larger number of children.
I have seen some pretty bad conditions in some private home daycares that I visited when looking for a child care spot for my older daughter when I was still working outside the home. I also found out after the fact that the home daycare provider that I did end up with had 8 kids some days (when she was only supposed to have 4) when my own daughter was in her care. I didn't know about it until after the fact and was unsure about the laws at that time so I didn't do anything about it. I really regret that now. But I took her out of that place as soon as I possibly could and she gets to be home with me now. Her home was not appropriate for that many kids.
So what bothers me is a concern for the children. I know that being licensed doesn't necessarily mean better care, because you unlicensed ladies are obviously responsible and caring - but you also make sure to stay within your legal limits. That is the difference. If they feel it is okay to take more kids than they're legally allowed, then what is necessarily keeping them from being irresponsible about things that affect the safety and well being of the children? Do they have proper insurance? Not likely since I know insurance providers don't cover private daycares in Manitoba for more than 4 kids.