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Just curious, if daycare providers here charge extra for dealing with cloth diapers and washcloths instead of wet wipes for diaper changes? This mom says that her son gets changed 7 times daily and I'm thinking this will take more time and effort on my part.
Lots of cloth diapers now days. About 25% of all children in cloth.
No extra fee here for them. A diaper is a diaper. Wrap up with content and require a wet bag to put them in and then left on doorstep/back deck for parent to get so not smelly in house. I also have requirement that if diapers not laundered at home daily that they are at soaking in soap because I find even clean diapers can hold pee pee smell if not washed quick.
When I have a little one in cloth diapers, they are changed when the others are, I don't change them more often.
I have never had a child in cloth diapers in my hdc or in the centres I worked at. I'd need a lesson on how to change them and store dirty diapers but I'm fairly sure I wouldn't charge more.
I do think they're becoming more popular again so I'm sure I'll see some soon! A friend of a friend cloth diapers but has mentioned she'd send disposables when/if she needs daycare.
I bought an All Purpose Canister from the dollar store for $3.00 and keep the wet bag in there as further protection from smell. I put it outside front door near end of day. No extra fees here. I use same cover if just pee and just replace the cloth diaper and wipe with moist cloth. If it's poop then I roll the whole thing up with the washcloth and cover and stick it n wet bag. No dumping. I get rid of it ASAP. Has worked well. Mom knows the ones that have the covers are the poop ones. mom supplies everything and washcloths too.
This very true. For 6 year I have no cloth diapers and only asked once and said no. Last 3 years, lots of cloth diapers. Always one or two in cloth and same for other providers I know.Quote:
Originally Posted by 5 Little Monkeys
It just the same. They have velcro or snap and there is a pocket for a pad to be put inside, like putting pillow case on pillow. Size of diaper can be changed as child get bigger by snaps which shorten/lengthen the height that diaper comes up tummy and back.
I tell all parent that clean diapers in child bag must be already to right size and have pad/insert inside. So when I put on child, it is just like throw away diaper with popper or velco on sides. Some carer plop out solid into toilet when used and throw away dirty wipes. Some just wrap it all up and parent deal with at home. Up to you. Then the diaper with mess and wipes or facecloth go straight in bag to go home. Exactly same as throw away diaper except not throwing away.
Some carer have RSI (I think) or bad hand from snap, snap all time. Two snap each side of diaper and snap under crotch of vest is 7 undo snaps and 7 do up snaps every diaper change. Some people hands don't like all the snap, snapping. Some carer ask for velcro diaper but expensive to buy if parent already bought snapping diaper.
I don't charge extra for cloth and I have a couple of them that are in them here. I actually openly offer all my clients if they are interested, what they are all about. Our clients/parents pay us so much of their hard earned money to take care of their treasures i'm all for showing them how to save a little here and there.
what i really want to know is why would you charge more? Its the parents that have to take them home nightly and do loads of laundry, and bring them back and forth, if anything its more work for them but the choice they have made and understand using cloth diapers. I don't understand, nor would I ever charge more to do that. You wipe poop off of a regular diapered bum no? there is no difference with cloth diapers, especially if your wrapping it all up and tossing it in a wet bag. I even remove solids for my clients so they just have to toss everything in the wash and return clean. I feel like charging more is quite petty no? Your job is to take care of peoples children, whatever that takes. If we were to charge more for lets say, disposable plates and cutlery because we don't want to do so many dishes, would you? or, if you do crafts everyday instead of once and a while you should charge more? Come on providers, this is our job, our life, our love, don't get caught up in all the tiny details of the great little lives we get to be a part of.
sorry for the rant but this bugs me!
If a parent has chosen cloth diapers for their children they should not be discriminated against and charged more or turned down by a provider based on diaper choice....kinda ridiculous if you ask me.
Well for myself I do not do cloth. Sorry if that seems like I am discriminating Beanie but it's the same thing as saying no to others based on other parent choices. I tried cloth with my daughter and don't like them. They are more work IMO. It is my choice as a provider. Just like saying potty training kids need to wear a pull-up. My house my rules. I have turned a family away because of cloth. It is not something I want to do.
Pretty sure the original poster was considering charging more because she has never dealt with cloth diapers before and then has the mom telling her she needs to change the diaper seven times a day. That is alot of diaper changes. Nothing petty about that!Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanie
I haven't had any cloth diaper daycare kids, but I have had the cloth training pants. I am totally okay with them, as long as they are properly washed so they don't start to smell.
Be sure that if you do decide to take cloth diapered babies that you tell the parents if they start to have an ammonia smell to them, it means they have build up and need to be stripped and deep cleaned. Properly washed cloth diapers aren't supposed to smell.
I am cloth diaper friendly .... I don't charge extra .... The diapers must cone ready to go and there must be a wet bag ... The diapers must go home nightly and I do not rinse or dump.... I love cloth diapers !!
More work = more pay. If I had a cloth diaper client who was expecting me to change their child's bum 7x/day everyday they will get charged more. I do take cloth diapers but they are changed when everyone else is, and I haven't come across any who needed to get changed that often (maybe the cloth isn't as absorbable). If there are snaps the parents are expected to do this and as for cleaning poop off the cloth ....umm no way (that's how you can get pinworms and all kinds of parasites). What I have told parents to do is to place a baby wipe under the bum that way if the child poops it goes straight into the baby wipe and you can just throw it out. If I was buying disposable paper plates and cutlery or doing crafts everyday of course I would charge more. If I am spending more money I expect to get compensated for that. A lot of providers can't afford to do things like that because it costs them more money and it might not be in their budget, but that doesn't make them any less of a provider than one who does crafts everyday. I offer organic/gluten free foods at my daycare so should I charge the same daily rates as someone who buys non-organic food? No way, if it costs more I charge more!
Thank you for your defense Amanda KDT. Beanie's response is why I don't post here often, don't like to feel that I have to defend myself. I was thinking that I would need to be laundering these diapers as well as changing the child 7 times/day but on second thought unlikely that would happen in 10 hours.lol By the way I think it's great if parents use cloth diapers, if they choose to. I used them on my second child years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanie
By the way Beanie, I also toss the poop but wouldn't think to mention it because I'm not petty, despite being accused of it. Perhaps you could ask for clarification and not jump to conclusions before you start putting people on the defensive.
I also don't charge extra for craft materials.
By the way, just wanted to say thanks for the useful info and that I'll be sending the dirty diapers home for washing!lol
Ladies, ladies, ladies....grab a glass of wine and watch survivor and Nashville :) or am I the only loser who spends my Wednesday nights doing this?!? Lol
Remember, tone gets lost over text and many many miscommunications can occur. I'm sure your both wonderful dc ladies but obviously do things differently...that's okay :)
I like to try to stick to discussing the issues and not attack people personally because we don't know each other personally.
I should also mention I've taken my sleeping pills and am getting drowsy so I hope I made sense!!! Lol
Now I know why I rarely comment on this board anymore ...
I hope you will continue to comment! I always liked your posts :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Crayola kiddies
What do you do for the liners? I have one little one that I suggested using the liners as it would make for easier cleaning, but I have a low flow, and am concerned that it might block the toilet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crayola kiddies
Have you tried having a diaper box with a mix of water and baking soda to use with the cloths. I have found since our our air dryed, that they can get a bit stiff, and the baking soda water helps to soften then, and cleans with out having to use soapsQuote:
Originally Posted by ebhappydc
Well if the parent wants to use liners that's fine but I don't dump or rinse so I don't have to worry about my toilet .... I just roll up the diaper and put it in the wet bag and it all goes home at the end of the day for the parent to deal with. And back to the original poster I also would not agree to 7 diaper changes a day .... Really ? Mid morning before nap after nap and after any poop ... That's plenty.... The parent is just micro managing ... Unless of course the child is a heavy wetter then maybe an extra one would be needed.... But I also do t allow for children to walk around with cups so they get a drink at morning snack lunch and aft snack.Quote:
Originally Posted by 33 Daiseys
I know......but on another topic, can you pm me about that de worm stuff for people. Thank youQuote:
Originally Posted by Emma H
wow! I should have popped some popcorn before I opened this thread!
Just my two cents, I will take cloth diapers, but I will not scrape or dump the poop either! If that doesnt work for the parents, they simply need to find someone else. Just like any "extra favour" that I agree to with this job, I find I quickly become resentful. In my experience the more extra you agree to, the more they expect. its not a bad thing to stick to your wants and needs, it will save everyone some trouble in the end.
I just wanted to add, that the cloth diapered little ones I have had in my care, do tend to stink more (even when they are not poopy, the diapers just stink...but as someone mentioned in an earlier post the diapers themselves were not likely cleaned properly) also I find the kids get more diaper rashes, might have just been the kids, just an observation I have experienced
Thanks for tip - i'll pass that onto the mom as i don't soak, but she does and they are sometimes a bit stiff. I just put wet bag stuffed with dirties into a plastic canister from dollar store and if there's any smell, that keeps it away. I remember feeling daunted when I was first asked about cloths but it ended up for me being ok. I didn't find more than usual changes but then the kids not a big drinker either so may b different with other kids. If the diapers start to smell (like a hamster cage) mom does deep cleaning. Mom doesn't put in liners either so not used. Trickiest part for me was making sure all exposed diaper cloth is tucked behind the plastic cover or other stuff gets wet.Quote:
Originally Posted by 33 Daiseys
No if you follow both threads where she being troll and nasty. This over spill from other place where she attack and not like own medicine. She and her friend feel it all good to belittle others but not like when treated same way.
But I do think she need help not to be bitter and mean because I do think it defense mechanism from past. See it lot in young women when worked in corrections and women prison.
I think some of your upset is cultural difference. Canadian people tend to gently gently tip toe around for worry of upset where Russian tend to call it like see it. No way right or wrong just different approaches. I not making tongue in cheek comment pretend to be nice when not - I think she need professional help to not be so mean. Lot of meanness for young girl esp as being mean for kicks and to make herself feel important. It really is sad.
I had several previous clients use cloth diapers, and I was not a fan myself. They had the liner inserts in them, but I tried flushing them with poop in my toilets, and they always clogged. So I was forced to roll up sticky poop on the liner/diaper and put it in a bucket for the parents. Also, they always seemed to leak on my playroom/cots/furniture etc no matter what size they used. Both of these kids got chronic diaper rashes, even with 6 changes a day in 9.5 hrs. Once they switched to disposable( I requested due to chronic leakage) the leaking and diaper rashes stopped. Just my 2 cents, but to each their own.
I not had these liner inserts. I have one cloth diaper parent who put pad in pocket of diaper and also had fleecy rectangle of material to line inside diaper and held prevent stains. Like a strip of material that cover penis to bottom. Is this what you mean by liner insert?Quote:
Originally Posted by Busy ECE mommy
I don't bother trying to flick poop off diaper. I just wrap all up like Pampers and put in bag provided by parent, wet bag I think they called, and give back.
Not had leak issue either except one boy switched from homo milk to 2% after 2nd birthday and it affected his toileting. He would not go as often but then when he did, it was explosion and all inside pants, everywhere. When we realized change began with milk switch, we change him back and no issue. This only time cloth diaper not good enough.
Maybe a brand issue? My client uses Apple something or Bumgenius brand usually.
Just my two cents...it might be an idea to set each other up on ignore so you don't see the posts. I couldn't care less about whether you agree with each other or not and my opinion on who said what and what I believe is right or wrong is irrelevant. What I will say is that this back and forth regardless of who is right or wrong spoils the forum for other members. It's not just a difference of opinion back and forth which would be completely fine. This is like two threads intertwined with the cloth diaper subject still being addressed, while a select few are going on about something completely different that isn't even daycare related. You don't have to take my suggestion, who the hell am I to say, but if this keeps going on and on spoiling peoples threads and the experience at large for other members, it's really not okay. You could just ignore each other and then it will stop all the accusations and name calling and in threads you won't see each others posts.
Hi-- mod alert here- I had already checked into the forum for the day when this went down, sorry it took me a few hours to get back.
If you don't like a post or a poster the ignore button should be used liberally. Also do not attack each other.
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