Ontario Caregivers - daycare announcement due today

[jodaycare]

Does the minister actually understand what she is suggesting? With all day kindergarten starting as young as 3 3/4, how are we supposed to meet ratios? Fortunately, my daughter is 20 so wont count. I will choose to stay unlicensed but if I have to follow the two under two etc, I will just raise my fees so that I can afford to have less kids. This plan is just going to make daycare more expensive for parents. They need to change the ratios to take Full day kindergarten into account.

[cfred]

Yeah, my kids are older too, so that doesn't affect me. Like you, if I stay open, I'll likely jack up the rates too. Also, ethically raised meats, premium veggies/fruits will have to go....back to budget shopping for sure. Craft supplies and equipment will be pared back and all those little 'niceties' I've always looked after (such as wipes, sunscreen, meds, epipens on site, lunches out and other free excursions. It's a shame.

These are just proposals though, correct? Just because they're proposed doesn't necessarily make it so....at least not right away. Really, can you imagine the economic repercussions of a sudden action? There's no way. The province just can't support the back lash. I love the idea of a registry and independent inspectors hired for the job. Bring it on! All these proposals are nothing more than a very thinly veiled agenda in favour of agency care. Surely they'll look at different options, not necessarily what's being proposed today. I'd like to believe that people are smarter than this.

[jodaycare]

Here is another article

http://metronews.ca/news/toronto/870...se-regulation/

It basically says that all home daycares will be forced to join an agency! If that is the case I will close. So annoyed that I have put more than 20 years into my business, and now my hard work and education is going to waste! I don't think I could ever go back to working in a centre!!!

[Crayola kiddies]

Do you mind me asking you how many kids you care for and their ages right now. I am just interested in knowing how you make this business viable with all the restrictions. My kids are over 10 so they will never be an issue but I am wondering how you will stick within the ratios and still be full? Thanks

sure .....current enrollment I have 12.5 months, 22 months, 2 yrs 1 month, 2 years 8 months, 3 years 1 month

I think that keeps me legal

[torontokids]

No, you have 4 kids under 3 yrs old. It probably wouldn't come into effect that quickly though so your 2.8 will be 3 soon enough but as it stands now, you would have to get rid of one

[gravy_train]

What I think is so frustrating is that we have to rely on media reports to keep us updated on changes that will effect not only our livelihood but also the children we care for everyday. I can only imagine the scramble that will ensue when private daycare providers have to start 'cutting' children from their group.

[cfred]

Here is another article

http://metronews.ca/news/toronto/870...se-regulation/

It basically says that all home daycares will be forced to join an agency! If that is the case I will close. So annoyed that I have put more than 20 years into my business, and now my hard work and education is going to waste! I don't think I could ever go back to working in a centre!!!

I can't work in a centre either. I mean, I COULD do it, but wouldn't be able to support myself or my kids. I had a look earlier today to see if wages for daycare workers has improved at all since I graduated ECE in 1994. Nope. Downtown Toronto is highest paid at $16.41 (something like that) per hour. Most providers make a whopping $20, 000/ year. Wow.....I mean, really Ontario....thank you soooooo very much for putting such value on our children as to pay those of us willign to take care of them at poverty level. Yep.....I see a big commitment to the wellbeing of children there. I don't know why I bothered to go to school for this. It's absolute crap.

[Artsand crafts]

sure .....current enrollment I have 12.5 months, 22 months, 2 yrs 1 month, 2 years 8 months, 3 years 1 month

I think that keeps me legal

I have one 17 mo, two 18 mo, one 2yrs 2month and my son 2.5 yo. If this is effective right now I will have to get rid of one of the younger ones and the 2yo. So I will be left with only 2kids. Over 3yo are harder to find since usually most are in their original daycare or out to preschool. Just to get by while I get a job or start another business I will have to rise my fees to the babies. I am thinking something around $10 to $15 more per kid.

[bright sparks]

And what exactly are the fines up to $250K for? I have no intention of running an illegal daycare or breaking any rules so I'm not particularly worried but still makes me anxious that due to an innocent mistake that I could lose my flipping house!!!! An illegally run day care which is a danger to the well being should be shut down immediately nevermind a fine, but what about those who just aren't well informed and just need someone to work with them versus against them. Someone mentioned the other day about sticking to other rules such as feeding the kids meals following Canada's food guide, well I wouldn't be able to run then as anyone who knows about nutrition knows that the CFG is keeping the nation unhealthy not healthy. Parents visit different daycares for their differences to find the right match for them and their child. So what do I say now at interviews, this is how id like to run my daycare but unfortunately I will have to charge you an extra $10 a day just to be able to afford to feed your kids hotdogs and as a treat once a week the kids can paint!?!?

This is outrageous. I think it would be very interesting to have a meeting between parents and daycare providers only to shed some reality on how this not only effects the dcp but also how it will balls up the parents life and the increased chance of parents losing their jobs due to the inability to find daycare and also because they will continuously have to find new daycare when the dcp ratios change with aging of the kids. How the hell do we decide which kids stay and which go...Omg this is too much....

[Artsand crafts]

These are just proposals though, correct? Just because they're proposed doesn't necessarily make it so....at least not right away.

I found this and seems that still needs to be approved:

http://news.ontario.ca/edu/en/2013/1...ation-act.html