Terrible situation

[mamaof4]

I truly hate to bump this thread. But this daycare provider, operating illegally, had a child drown in her care. Thank goodness my friend removed her girls from this woman's care.

[Judy Trickett]

Could you offer me the name of this provider, please? You can PM me if you feel more comfortable than posting it on a public forum.

I will tell you why I ask......because I keep an ongoing file of daycare deaths due to provider negligence and/or illegal warehousing of children etc etc. And I do this so I can find trends in this sort of thing. I use this information to help train and educate other providers AND parents on signs of a bad daycare situation.

I use info like this to educate parents what to look for and how to know to GET OUT. I also use cases of daycare provider abuse to teach other providers how to recognize triggers and situations that will increase their frustrations to the point of harming a child.

It's all for the greater good, trust me.

Hopefully you will PM me her name and city.

Thanks

[sunnydays]

This is truly horrible and tragic. I wish people would just know when to get out if they are obviously unable to care for the children properly

[Spixie33]

Yikes. Scary that they were giving the 6 month old so much Tylenol.

I think medicating kids to sleep must be more popular than most wuld think. My son was a crier from day one. He would cry in the carseat, the car, the crib, the stroller - everywhere for long periods of time. He was just not one of those quiet sweet babies that sleep all the time.

People would come up to me and suggest giving him Gravol to make him drowsy and so he won't cry. At first I thought they were joking but they weren't and even my older sister later suggested the same thing. I couldn't believe it. Crazy

[Sandbox Sally]

Judy, google Chicago, 2 year old, daycare, drown, and she'll come up. I did this. Gross.

[Emilys4Guppies]

Wow, that's aweful. Just aweful.

What happens in this situation? What will the woman be charged with?

[mamaof4]

Judy- a lot of the investigation is still pending, but the situation gets worse and worse- really- it is possible.

[Judy Trickett]

Ugh....just googled and read up on it. How utterly sad. But I gotta ask....WHERE the HELL was the provider in the time it took for a 2 yr old to go outside, climb up the deck stairs and then drown in a pool?

I don't wanna sound judgemental here but I can tell you I KNOW where ALL my dckids are at EVERY second. It's my JOB to know where they are and what they are doing.

It DOES upset me though that the news keeps going on and on and on about it being an UNlicensed daycare. Sorry, but licensing does NOT make you a better caretaker. It just doesn't.

When kids die in UNlicensed daycare the powers that be stand in front of microphones and say, "This is why all daycare should be licensed". And then when kids die in LICENSED daycare the powers that be stand in front of the microphone and say, "This is why it is the parent's job to be ever vigilant about whom they chose to care for their children."

So? What is it? Is it because daycares are not all licensed that kids die or is it because the parents did a bad job of picking the right provider?

Answer: Its ALL hogwash. Negligent providers are negligent providers. Handing over a piece of paper that says "Licensed" on it does not suddenly make a negligent person responsible.

I just wish the media would NOT put forth the ideal that if a provider is licensed then you can be assured that your kids are safe. NOTHING could be farther from the truth.

I don't like the fact that media paints the picture that daycare is dangerous. Studies show (I actually HAVE this study) that kids are TWICE as likely to die in the care of their PARENTS than in daycare.

[Sandbox Sally]

But I gotta ask....WHERE the HELL was the provider in the time it took for a 2 yr old to go outside, climb up the deck stairs and then drown in a pool?

I don't wanna sound judgemental here but I can tell you I KNOW where ALL my dckids are at EVERY second. It's my JOB to know where they are and what they are doing.

RIGHT??? This is what I don't understand. The articles said that it was approximately 20 minutes from the last time she saw the little girl until she found her in the pool. How on earth can people let toddlers walk around unattended, either inside OR outside? Am I the only one who LOCKS their doors when dck's are around? It's pretty simple - If you're in charge of children who depend on you to keep them alive AND you have a pool in your yard, get a freakin alarm on your door. This astounded me about the case in Orleans too. How can a person have a pool in their yard AND be a child care provider, yet be so ignorant about pool safety? SO upsetting. This is a case of negligence. No way around it. Another senseless death of an innocent baby.

[sunnydays]

I agree with the posts above that it has nothing to do with licensing...it has to do with the provider being negligent! My dcks are never out of my sight unless they are strapped into booster seats and I am in the bathroom for 1 minute! They are not wandering around in different rooms of the house let alone outside alone! But I guess if the lady was sleeping while dck's ran around, that would explain it! Disgusting and horrible and I hope she is charged for it.