Is Discipline Non-Existent These Days?

[daycarewhisperer]

I would have to disagree somewhat. No I don't think we are busier per say but the lives we lead are so very different than that time it's comparing apples to oranges. No we don't have to chop wood, and wash laundry by hand but in the same token neither did they have 1.5 hour long daily commutes or parent teacher meetings. Society itself has also changed and life is less family/home-centric. Gone are the days of 6 kids at home HELPING mom wash laundry and dad chop wood. Parents nowadays balance tasks that are just as time consuming and do it without help because it's things kids can't do. Grandparents are less support because they themselves are often working.

Raising kids is tough regardless of if you were doing in now, 50 years or or 100 years ago. It's just tough in different ways.

Gone are the days of parents having to MAKE 6 kids at home HELP mom wash laundry and dad chop wood. For every bit of survival and living chores that were given to the children to do there was a parent there saying you MUST. Telling them NO they can't not do it. Telling them you won't HAVE food if you don't do this. And remember too that the kids who worked at home had school also and often a very long hike back and forth to school. They had LONG days of family work, school, and family work. Also the mom of six HAD infant, toddler, preschooler (kid one, two, three) without any older kid to help. We have parents who have infant, toddler, preschooler for the most part.

So yes... this generation has it WAY easy compared to our foremothers and forefathers. We need to get a grip and stop saying how HARD this is. It isn't. It's work but it's not HARD work compared to our grandparents, great grands, etc.

[Toregone]

Gone are the days of parents having to MAKE 6 kids at home HELP mom wash laundry and dad chop wood. For every bit of survival and living chores that were given to the children to do there was a parent there saying you MUST. Telling them NO they can't not do it. Telling them you won't HAVE food if you don't do this. And remember too that the kids who worked at home had school also and often a very long hike back and forth to school. They had LONG days of family work, school, and family work. Also the mom of six HAD infant, toddler, preschooler (kid one, two, three) without any older kid to help. We have parents who have infant, toddler, preschooler for the most part.

So yes... this generation has it WAY easy compared to our foremothers and forefathers. We need to get a grip and stop saying how HARD this is. It isn't. It's work but it's not HARD work compared to our grandparents, great grands, etc.

Sorry but I'm still going to have to disagree. Yes I see your point but it's still apples to oranges. I'm sure that just as I look back through history and say to myself "Holy crap that seems hard!" if my great grands were able to peek into the future and comprehend the lives we live they would say the same.

But that's a discussion for a different post. This thread is about disipline and yes I feel that whatever the reasoning (societal pressure, lack of time, laziness.. whatever you think the reason is) disipline has slacked considerably since even I was a child and I'm only 26.